Can I remove local and local-lvm? (2024)

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I use the storages nvme and ssd for all my VMs and LXCs. I do not use local and local-lvm. Can I safely remove them?
Or otherwise just unselect all contect types, so that I cannot use it for anything?

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The storage local is just a directory and does not take up any space if not used.

The storage local-lvm is thin provisioned LVM.

Both can be removed. After removing local-lvm from Proxmox's storage configuration you still need to remove the LV to free up space in the VG.

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For others coming here for the same question:

local-lvm

- Remove local-lvm from the storage configuration of the Datacenter
- Execute the following commands on the node's console:

Code:

lvremove /dev/pve/datalvresize -l +100%FREE /dev/pve/rootresize2fs /dev/mapper/pve-root

local

Cannot be removed from the storage configuration. If you try it, it will not disappear.
Instead, disable it, so that it will no longer be available in the dropdown lists when creating a VM or LXC.

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janvv said:

For others coming here for the same question:

local-lvm

- Remove local-lvm from the storage configuration of the Datacenter
- Execute the following commands on the node's console:

Code:

lvremove /dev/pve/datalvresize -l +100%FREE /dev/pve/rootresize2fs /dev/mapper/pve-root

local

Cannot be removed from the storage configuration. If you try it, it will not disappear.
Instead, disable it, so that it will no longer be available in the dropdown lists when creating a VM or LXC.

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Well i have a question for this, before i got to this post i already did that of unticking the enable thing on local, but even tho it says its just a directory, i dont think thats right, cause i have a 500gb nvme, my lvm is only 400g space and local had 100g asigned to it which fter disable it, it doesnt get added to the lvm space, how can i add this space to the lvm disk?


My guess is that data is the lvm, root is that unalocated space, or, that root is the OS and data is the space proxmox asign for VMs? im new to proxmox so im still learning its functions, but if this root space is unalocated, how can i add it to lvm?

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This is not a Proxmox specific issue. You have make yourself familiar with LVM.
I would recommend to investigate your disk layout by lsblk and gparted, and then find information on how to extend your data volume.

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javito1081 said:

My guess is that data is the lvm, root is that unalocated space, or, that root is the OS and data is the space proxmox asign for VMs? im new to proxmox so im still learning its functions, but if this root space is unalocated, how can i add it to lvm?

After a normal installation: local is a directory (/var/lib/vz as you can see at Datacenter > Storage) on the Proxmox installation (root filesystem, which is not unallocated but contains the OS). Proxmox is on a LV on the local-lvm (a VG in LVM terms). The rest of the local-lvm can be used for virtual disks. Resizing LVs is possible but you better shrink the filesystem on it first. Booting GParted Live might help you.

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leesteken said:

After a normal installation: local is a directory (/var/lib/vz as you can see at Datacenter > Storage) on the Proxmox installation (root filesystem, which is not unallocated but contains the OS). Proxmox is on a LV on the local-lvm (a VG in LVM terms). The rest of the local-lvm can be used for virtual disks. Resizing LVs is possible but you better shrink the filesystem on it first. Booting GParted Live might help you.

Oh ok ok tyvm, that was my doubt if the root was the system, cause i did saw that data was a directory but i wasnt sure about the root partition, i will tho follow @janvv advice and investigate about LVM, i wanna learn every aspect of this thing and i havent had to mess with that before hehe

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Can I remove local and local-lvm? (2024)

FAQs

Can I remove local and local-lvm? ›

Thin-provisioned LVM is used in the storage local-lvm. We may take both out. It is still necessary to delete the LV in order to make room in the VG even after deleting local-lvm from Proxmox's storage configuration. So, it is not possible to delete the local directory from the storage settings.

What is local-lvm used for? ›

Logical Volume Manager (LVM) Storage uses the TopoLVM CSI driver to dynamically provision local storage on single-node OpenShift clusters. LVM Storage creates thin-provisioned volumes using Logical Volume Manager and provides dynamic provisioning of block storage on a limited resources single-node OpenShift cluster.

How do I remove an lvm? ›

To remove an inactive logical volume, use the lvremove command. If the logical volume is currently mounted, you must close the volume with the umount command before removing it. In addition, in a clustered environment you must deactivate a logical volume before it can be removed.

How do I remove local volume from proxmox? ›

Using the Proxmox GUI, go to the node, click storage and select local-lvm. I used the 'Remove' button to remove the volume.

How to delete partition with lvm? ›

  1. Step 1: Delete entry from /etc/fstab. # cat /etc/fstab. ...
  2. Step 2: unmount the partition. # umount /data.
  3. Step 3: Disable LVM. # lvchange -an /dev/CVOL/workspace.
  4. Step 4: Delete LVM volume. ...
  5. Step 5: Disable volume group. ...
  6. Step 6: Delete physical volumes used for volume group “vg”

Can I delete local LVM? ›

1. Select “Storage” after selecting “Datacenter.” 2. Select “local-lvm” and then “Remove.” (Relax, it's not a negative thing.)

Can I disable LVM? ›

Disabling LVM Caching. One of the safest and most straightforward methods to disable caching for a specific LV is by using the lvconvert –uncache command. This command decouples the cache from the LV without affecting the data on the LV.

How do I reduce the size of my LVM? ›

Shrinking a volume using LVM

XFS file systems cannot be shrunk; the only solution is to back up the data, delete the volume, create and configure a smaller volume, and restore the data to it. EXT2/EXT3/EXT4 file systems can be shrunk, conversely, but there are also VMWare entanglements when it comes to shrinking disks.

How do I activate and deactivate LVM in Linux? ›

You can activate or deactivate all of the logical volumes in a volume group with the -a option of the vgchange command. This is the equivalent of running the lvchange -a command on each individual logical volume in the volume group.

What is LVM mode? ›

Logical volume management (LVM) is a form of storage virtualization that offers system administrators a more flexible approach to managing disk storage space than traditional partitioning. This type of virtualization tool is located within the device-driver stack on the operating system.

What is lvm in Proxmox? ›

Storage pool type: lvm. LVM is a light software layer on top of hard disks and partitions. It can be used to split available disk space into smaller logical volumes. LVM is widely used on Linux and makes managing hard drives easier. Another use case is to put LVM on top of a big iSCSI LUN.

How do I increase the size of my Proxmox local disk? ›

In the "Hard Disk" section, select the disk you want to change and click "Edit". In the window that appears, change the disk size to the new value and click OK. Start the virtual machine.

How do I completely remove Proxmox? ›

Uninstalling does not make sense with an operating system. You simply overwrite it with another operating system. You can wipe the disk drive first if you want, with something like GParted Live or using gdisk on the Proxmxo console to erase the partitioning.

What is the difference between partition and LVM? ›

LVM stands for Logical Volume Management. If you choose standard partitions, then the only partition that you will be able to resize is the last one on the disk. Therefore earlier partitions won't be possible. WIth LVM you would normally have two partitions on the disk, the first being /boot, the second being for LVM.

How to remove a physical volume from LVM? ›

If a device is no longer required for use by LVM, you can remove the LVM label with the pvremove command. Executing the pvremove command zeroes the LVM metadata on an empty physical volume.

How is LVM different from standard partition? ›

LVM uses a different concept. Storage space is managed by combining or pooling the capacity of the available drives. With traditional storage, three 1 TB disks are handled individually. With LVM, those same three disks are considered to be 3 TB of aggregated storage capacity.

What is the purpose of LVM? ›

Logical Volume Management, or LVM, provides a method of allocating and managing space on mass-storage devices that is more advanced and flexible than the traditional method of partitioning storage volumes.

Is LVM worth using? ›

One of the main benefits of using LVM is flexibility. You can create logical volumes of any size and shape, and adjust them as your needs change. For example, you can extend a logical volume by adding more space from the volume group, or shrink it by freeing up space for other logical volumes.

Should I use LVM on RAID? ›

LVM does not provide any inherent data redundancy or fault tolerance, which means that if a device fails, the data on the logical volume may be lost or corrupted. However, LVM can be combined with RAID implementation to achieve higher storage reliability.

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